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От   : Alexey Vissarionov               2:5020/545         03 Mar 19 15:21:00
Кому : Michiel van der Vlist                               03 Mar 19 15:21:00
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Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

03 Mar 2019 11:50:42, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

TL>> I feel lucky in having a great ISP. I could use any compatible
TL>> router I wanted to for my physical connection, which is VDSL.
MvdV> There is an EU directive that forbids ISPs to force their
MvdV> equipment on customers. Some countries such as Germany have
MvdV> already implemented it. Here in The Netherlands the big ISPs
MvdV> are still dragging their feet. Now the argument is where the
MvdV> ISP's network ends and the customers network starts.

We had similar discussion ca. 2007, and the result was "the jack on a cable belongs to the ISP, the socket on a network device belongs to the customer".

MvdV> The cable boys are now trying to twist is so that the modem
MvdV> part is "their" part of the network and the router is part of
MvdV> the customer's network.

That's correct: their equipment converts *DSL or optical link to the copper ethernet, and there's the ISP's ethernet cable between the ISP's converter and the customer's router.

MvdV> That way they can still demand that the customer use their modem
MvdV> but can have its own router. The tweakers want their own modem
MvdV> as well. The jury is still out on that issue...

So the modem _must_ be just a bridge - it _must_ _not_ be a router.


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