= Сообщение: 5907 из 7402 ============================================= IPV6 = От : Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 03 Mar 19 15:21:00 Кому : Michiel van der Vlist 03 Mar 19 15:21:00 Тема : Dynamic IPv6 FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=2:5020/545+5c7bd6a0 На : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+5c7bb350 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP866 ================================== ============================================================================== Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!
03 Mar 2019 11:50:42, you wrote to Tony Langdon:
TL>> I feel lucky in having a great ISP. I could use any compatible TL>> router I wanted to for my physical connection, which is VDSL. MvdV> There is an EU directive that forbids ISPs to force their MvdV> equipment on customers. Some countries such as Germany have MvdV> already implemented it. Here in The Netherlands the big ISPs MvdV> are still dragging their feet. Now the argument is where the MvdV> ISP's network ends and the customers network starts.
We had similar discussion ca. 2007, and the result was "the jack on a cable belongs to the ISP, the socket on a network device belongs to the customer".
MvdV> The cable boys are now trying to twist is so that the modem MvdV> part is "their" part of the network and the router is part of MvdV> the customer's network.
That's correct: their equipment converts *DSL or optical link to the copper ethernet, and there's the ISP's ethernet cable between the ISP's converter and the customer's router.
MvdV> That way they can still demand that the customer use their modem MvdV> but can have its own router. The tweakers want their own modem MvdV> as well. The jury is still out on that issue...
So the modem _must_ be just a bridge - it _must_ _not_ be a router.
-- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii