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[ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGwt_BXYAA2k4o.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:31:26 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883181642344300544 Traditional urbanism has short blocks. No building takes more than 3-4 seconds to walk past, providing interesting colors, shops, textures. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGxAU7XYAE8vKS.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:31:58 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883181775991717888 Modern dis-urbanism means massive buildings, long block: takes minutes to walk past with nothing to distract or relieve the tedium. (Z&+APw-;rich) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGxIwkXYAAFxGz.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:32:32 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883181915368431617 Traditional towns built with terrain: hills, valleys, stairs, steps, corners, odd squares. Landscaping unnecessary/uneconomical. (Stockholm) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGxQZYW0AEszxU.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:33:03 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883182047048605696 Modern dis-urbanism has buildings/houses separated, apart, at best standing-off across wide streets, making community impossible. (Hamburg) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGxYRVXgAA-YhG.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:33:31 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883182166200393728 Traditional urbanism means buildings are tight, close, interlocking and over-looking, often built right into their neighbors. (Colmar) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGxfVjW0AAVyBU.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:34:10 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883182328456986625 Traditional urbanism naturally limited the number of floors rather than the height: variation. More sun means possibility of denser cities. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGxooJXUAArI-e.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:34:36 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883182435546025984 Warning: Introducing "social housing" into your town = injecting cancer in your body. Only to be attempted with strict rules (Fuggerei 1516) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGxu9xXoAAVUvZ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:35:07 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883182568660533249 Traditional urbanism means a multitude of transport systems, not the monoculture of modern dis-urbanism. Canals open up and connect (Fyn). [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGx24CW0AAq1C-.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:35:37 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883182693688590340 Traditional urbanism means building on street level, right out into the street. No wastage! Can't get more bang for your rigsdaler. (Aarhus) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGx-DTXgAAUNEh.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:36:04 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883182807123492864 Lower buildings and tight front streets means opportunity for small back gardens, inner yards: use for economic, gardening or recreation. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGyEmoXoAEV6-t.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-07 04:36:29 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/883182910542499841 Bonus: Traditional urbanism is a boon for local economy, instantly recognizable and a magnet for tourists. Can this be anywhere but Irkutsk? [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEGyKpvXUAAZgLG.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 02:47:43 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884605089331036160 Street layout is important in how a town is experienced. In fairness I use only photos from Stockholm Old Town, pop. 3000. Sweden. Let's go! [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEa_X1uVwAAdJfW.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 02:48:16 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884605229957693440 Long streets that go on and on without any obvious end feel un-focused. These are only defensible as boulevards, towards a monumental bldg. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEa_vEWV0AAZVhn.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 02:49:37 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884605570694529024 Long streets are best when slightly turned or twisted, combined with interesting ground floors they become attractive rather than corridors. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEa_5UQUMAIRwO3.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 02:50:16 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884605731256770560 The best long streets are not straight, and always focused on something: in this case a parish church provides an interesting focal point. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbALghUMAEIl7B.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 02:50:48 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884605867487707136 Combine turning streets with interesting ground floors and focal points, and you get that most sought after and magical thing: a real place. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbAVNTV0AAfJUh.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 02:58:52 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884607895152631808 To continue: not all streets need to be run of the mill streets. Some streets can be tunnels... [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbCHDZVYAAExBL.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 02:59:09 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884607968813002753 ...others can be stairs. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbCQKsVoAAtymk.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 03:58:35 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884622925273251840 Traditional towns require almost little or no public transport. Stockholm Old town has one single subway station connecting it to the City. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbP1WdUwAEaOmt.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 04:00:19 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884623361933926400 Like many old towns it is located on an island (others are built like islands). Two ferry lines service it, with boats from picturesque... [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbQN-7VoAA9D3P.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 04:00:45 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884623468855140353 ...to downright gorgeous. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbQWHaV0AA--pR.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-11 04:02:44 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884623969076170752 With 3000 inhabitants, you can walk to any point in less than 12 minutes, making cars useless (there are less than 400 parking spaces). [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbQkutUIAAKrgI.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 04:55:16 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884999577161654272 So far I have covered how we experience traditional urbanism (streets, layout etc.), let's have a look at how it evolves, grows up: plots. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEgmY5YXgAABb1e.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 04:56:07 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884999792283222016 Modern urbanism builds from the center of the plots and builds only fully realized structures, like with fossils, no evolution is possible. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEgmgg4XUAEdW1I.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 04:57:00 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/885000015080566784 Traditional urbanism starts right at the edge of the street, eventually only the center will be "open" (see Visby: mature 13th c. plots). [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEgmwufWsAEgcN3.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 04:57:32 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/885000149587591168 The buildings grow together, in shape, form, material, height, usage, organically over the centuries. No plot or bldg. is out of place. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEgm8FYWsAAstvX.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 04:58:30 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/885000393478086657 Individual bldgs can be started small, grow towards the back, up. This bldg. in Siena was added to, improved, enlarged, from 13th to 21st c. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEgnKLlXoAEifGj.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 04:59:36 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/885000667156361216 Modern Urbanism relies on bldgs like the &+IBw-;Shard&+IB0-;, there is nothing you could do to add or improve on this; it can only decay from here on. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEgnZOuXsAAnoQk.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 05:00:31 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/885000899592105985 Traditional Urbanism means an unruly but captivating organic mix of eras, densities, purposes and material: ecological and sustainable. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEgnj9mW0AQz47T.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 05:08:17 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/885002853764521986 (It is really hard to illustrate plot evolution using photos of existing cities but this model of medieval Copenhagen does the job well.) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEgpGq4WsAM7Aax.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 14:30:48 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/885144416356253696 Traditional architecture is timeless: regardless of size, material and era, it is always human scaled and made by hand. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEiqIofUQAELcjE.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-12 14:32:20 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/885144802383101952 Traditional urbanism is always human scaled. It is the most energy efficient and human view of living together in civilization. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEiqVr0V0AEHsox.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:29:55 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891878567587463168 An important difference between traditional and modernist cities are the usees of color. Let's have a look! (This is Bergen, Norway) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCWx0vUQAAUjQA.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:30:31 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891878717160431616 Modernists abhorred colors for ideological reasons, and built only in the "honest" grey, white, black, beige. https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/889114909044125697 Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:32:19 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891879172565422080 The result we can see here, in two Dutch waterfronts: modern Amsterdam, Holland and traditional Willemstad, Cura&+AOc-;ao, in the Lesser Antilles. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCXQgPV0AAzRfU.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCXQgQVwAA3m_5.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:33:14 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891879403487088640 Colors contribute to creating a town harmony, both visually and in terms of materials, as in the many red tile roofs of Europe. (Dubrovnik) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCXkuEVYAEgIHb.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:33:59 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891879593069510657 Certain regions and places have become known for certain colors, for spiritual, economical or practical reasons. Here, just a few examples: Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:34:54 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891879821566918656 Edo Black. In old Japan, rich merchants used black lime, hand polished to a mirror sheen to protect against fire, to show their prosperity. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCX9vRVYAAJOuD.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:35:45 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891880035287580672 Falu R&+APY-;d. From the 17th c. onwards, many Swedish houses were coated with a copper based pigment, durable and extremely easily maintained. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCYJVBUIAA6KyB.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:36:37 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891880253043257345 Habsburg Yellow. In a multinational central European empire, all official buildings used the same color, to create unity & visual identity. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCYVpjUAAI6BtS.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:37:24 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891880451001827329 Haint Blue. Or "Haunt" blue, is common in the US South, especially entrances, porches, windows: believed to repel insects as well as ghosts. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCYg0zUIAAibfV.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:39:53 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891881076263604224 Color could also be aspirational: Chinese green tiled roofs are made to look the ancient bamboo rods, but today meaning longevity, youth. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCZGYHUAAEdRCj.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-07-31 04:43:21 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/891881946330013698 But maybe the greatest use of color in architecture was achieved in medieval stained glass windows, colors that still can't be replicated. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGCZ4qMU0AAA7gV.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:35:38 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892967168203083777 It is time to talk about the materials which define traditional urbanism: wood, earth, brick, and stone, as opposed to modern: steel, glass. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR026vVYAAYJrO.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:37:11 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892967559187709952 Traditional towns were sustainable, in durable easily sourced local materials, leaving no waste and fully recyclable, from source to ruin: [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR1QSXUQAEUyFX.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:37:57 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892967751672774656 Near forests, making your own log houses was cheap, easy, ecological. Fire resistant, earthquake proof, naturally insulated: carbon sink! [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR1bdtVwAAPa7K.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:39:26 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892968126370897920 With a bit of stucco you could even turn the humble log cottage construction into a proper neoclassical chateau, as this Swedish loghouse. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR1xMkVwAABZHq.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:40:24 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892968369724379136 If you had less wood, half timbered houses were relatively easy to raise. The infill between the timber posts could be mud, brick, stone. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR1-U8UwAA2r4A.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:41:22 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892968612448813056 If you were successful in your business or workshop, you could just add a couple of floors: its the most flexible architecture imaginable. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR2NhRV0AAXTUt.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:43:58 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892969265518608384 In stony terrain you can use fieldstone to put up proper stone buildings, walls etc. Farmers will thank you. And its easy: just... [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR2WaQUAAApYJA.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:44:24 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892969378056032256 &+ICY-;pile them up! No need to use mortar if you have lots of time and space. Or&+ICY-; [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR24mkV0AA1XnS.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:45:29 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892969649750593536 &+ICY-;you can apply a bit of mortar for stronger, taller, slimmer walls. More effort but still a local product. Roofs can be made of slate. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR3A9fUwAABtVH.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:46:24 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892969877626953728 Of course the fanciest buildings use cut stone, but looks great anywhere. These walls will last virtually forever with a bit of maintenance. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR3WwFU0AA71hr.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:47:33 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892970167457660928 No wood, no stone, no problem! If we live in a drier climate we can make an entire town in simple dried mud brick, like Abyaneh in Iran&+ICY-;. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR3gfDVwAAIFlM.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:48:34 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892970422710317056 &+ICY-;but the easiest (especially in wetter climates) is of course fired brick (this is Pennsylvania). And just as with log houses&+ICY-; [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR32aqUQAAUQx4.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:49:56 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892970770535546880 &+ICY-;.they can be made to look like anything you want. Palladio made his name and fortune in the 16th c., by rediscovering brick, stucco, Rome. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR4LA_V0AQ5Crm.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:51:03 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892971050291478532 Or skip the brick making part and just dig earth up and ram it in place. Like the Church of the Holy Cross (Stateburg, South Carolina, USA). [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR4aS2VYAArqoh.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:51:53 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892971259822129152 &+ICY-;or this gorgeous 17th c. chateau in France, Vaugirad. Rammed earth dug from the very spot it stands on. How's that for local/ecological? [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR4hcaU0AEqGxT.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:53:10 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892971584306036736 By using&+IBQ-;above all&+IBQ-;locally sourced material instead of steel and glass, we can create ecological, sustainable, human scaled towns&+ICY-; [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR4zu3UQAAWr4l.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-03 04:55:37 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/892972198591254528 &+ICY-;that we can build & maintain by ourselves, for ourselves, and pass on to generation after generation of our children, with good conscience. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGR4_iMVoAEPVv0.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-07 02:04:54 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/894378787118358528 &+IBw-;A city is most a city when it is sharply defined by a wall.&+IB0-; &+IBQ-; Hilaire Belloc [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGl4wYmUMAEpJWV.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-07 02:06:54 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/894379290044669956 &+IBw-;The medieval city did not break through its walls and stretch over the countryside in an amorphous blob.&+IB0-; &+IBQ-; Lewis Mumford [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGl5NvVUIAIMywQ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-07 02:21:24 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/894382941471612928 &+IBw-;When I approached Viterbo I first saw an astonishing wall, untouched, the bones of the Middle Ages.&+IB0-; &+IBQ-; Hilaire Belloc, The Path to Rome [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGl8h_HUwAAW1Kh.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:11:38 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895150556150353920 Traditional Urbanism also makes use of trees and plants in a way that modern dis-urbanism completely ignores. Let's have a look. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw2rS-XkAAncJ3.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:12:35 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895150796563730432 In modern dis-urbanism, we are used to seeing "trees" like this, useless "urban parsley" that only a cynical real estate developer can love. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw244sXoAE_ICQ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:13:31 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895151030027026434 Even futurists get in on the game, building "gardens in the sky", like Milan's 2014 Bosco Verticale. Greenwashing has never looked so good&+ICY-; [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw2_u6W0AAZPFt.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:14:13 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895151206917709824 &+ICY-;all the trouble, ecological impact of a normal concrete skyscraper, plus a bunch of new ones! (Hint: Don't walk near this on a windy day!) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw3QaoUQAA5HF-.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:15:22 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895151496379199488 In the town where I grew up there was an old tradition of public fruit trees, like here in Seville. The streets were lined with fruit trees [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw3gn1UIAACB96.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:17:08 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895151942825115649 Traditional urbanism was gradual/organic, everything had to be both useful (to be planted in the first place) & beautiful (to be preserved). [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw35ouW0AAiBvC.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:18:03 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895152173675360256 Some towns draw world-wide interest (and tourist money) from their urban trees. The cherry trees of Kyoto is maybe the most famous example. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw4JJGW0AAb2FJ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:18:37 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895152313320570880 In the 17th c. it became fashionable to grow fruits and trees in purpose built "orangeries", where trees were kept inside during winter. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw4R3QWsAAN1Aw.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:19:11 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895152458506395649 (Bonus: Have you heard of Pineries? A building developed in 17th c. Britain to grow pineapples. Sustainable: no electricity, no chemicals.) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw4YEbXcAAlUIj.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw4YEEXgAAd5FP.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:20:12 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895152713482326020 Even super dense, medieval style towns can grow tons of fruits in any climate, for little or no cost. Espalier trees on south facing walls&+ICY-; [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw4ozUWAAE76AZ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:20:56 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895152898530828288 &+ICY-;while potted trees can be moved around to best suit the seasonal weather and even kept indoors at night or in winter, take out to see sun. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw4z47XUAAeVaF.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:21:32 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895153046598164481 There's even bonsai fruit trees that produce edible fruits: the ultimate in low time preference cuisine! Delight your future grand children! [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw47F6XoAQZeCb.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:22:22 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895153256552333312 In Germany medieval towns often owned nearby forests: a dependable, stable source of income, nature conservation and access to vital wood. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw5ImTW0AArXht.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:23:37 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895153570567290884 Besides fruit and edibles, town trees can provide timber and resources for buildings, artisans, craftsmen, even export&+ICY-; [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw5bDRW0AQptaQ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:24:07 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895153699227676672 &+ICY-;or be pollarded (cutting leaf bearing branches to store and use for winter feed of animals and cattle, the woody bits for kitchen fuel). [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw5ieOXcAA74io.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-09 05:24:42 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/895153844329611264 In conclusion: One quick and easy step to achieve better towns is to grow better trees in them. Trees that people can own, use, and love. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGw5ot0XkAE79a9.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-15 02:04:00 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/897277662682521600 INTERLUDE: Here's a dead mall in Toledo, Ohio. Looks horrible. But what if a a group of locals decided to turn it into a traditional town? [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHPDldOVwAA0s5l.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-15 02:04:39 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/897277827745169408 Let's build a town just like Venice. Hundreds, thousands, could live there, with no cars. Gondolas are nicer and you can fish in the canals. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHPFYraVwAEOD8L.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-15 02:06:16 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/897278234907131905 The neighbors could be persuaded to move in and the Town could acquire their land to rewild it. We'll need the wood in the future! [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHPFwlOV0AAXU93.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-15 02:07:09 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/897278457113006080 Let's devote the other side to agriculture. The old kind with small plots, many tiny farms. Permaculture even. But there's one big problem&+ICY-; [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHPF9jIV0AArhRZ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-08-15 02:07:42 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/897278594442862593 Those freeways got to go. Let's dig them up. Visitors can arrive by sail boat or barge. And why not top it up with a local currency? END. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHPGDppUwAEfwM_.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-06 07:03:11 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/905325488746373120 &+IBw-;It is a great art to make a city convivial, as the best examples we have inherited show us.&+IB0-; &+IBQ-; Herbert Girardet [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJBcug9VYAAl6x9.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:19:32 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910025546372866048 Let's get serious: how did our ancestors manage to create all these charming streets? Let's look down instead of up, at what we step on. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEPX-IVAAA9tqx.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:22:14 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910026228094066688 Let's leave Europe for a while and look at Japan. In any given town, pavement material varies. Tarmac dominates, but alleys often in stone. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEQBQaVoAAcoYE.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:23:43 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910026598102925312 Big flat stones are expensive but last forever. Smaller flagstones are a cheap solution and just as charming. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEQW1lV4AE9YiD.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEQW1jU8AAj9fz.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:25:01 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910026927687086080 Some materials are unique to one town only: Obuse is famous for its chestnuts, so they paved their streets in blocks of chestnut wood. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEQqP7UMAAHVC6.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:28:17 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910027748671758336 Not all streets need to be paved with one material, you can mix and match for maximum charm: dirt, gravel, river stone, cut stone, tarmac... [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKERY0VVAAA4Uys.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKERY0UVYAUJEbo.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKERY0TU8AAHxk8.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKERY0TV4AA6HyF.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:30:23 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910028275803553792 Some alleys can be left completely to nature, others can be meticulously cared for, matching the look and feel of the neighborhood itself. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKER4fqUQAALweY.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKER4fqUIAU2GEZ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:33:28 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910029054148874240 Just paving a street with stone is usually enough to cut down on traffic speed, but the bicycle bravados might need even more of a nudge. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKESk5kUMAE41Mx.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:36:04 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910029709680959488 Charming streets also mean mixed use streets. Even trains and foot traffic mix in Japan, allowing for dense towns and public rail transport. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKETLAjUIAAFbZ5.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKETK_-VYAAO8Rq.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:37:36 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910030092067233793 But the King of charm (and real estate value!) is water. Combine narrow streets with canals and drains for unbeatable charm. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKETiXIUQAAjmqZ.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:39:42 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910030620964790272 Clean water drains help manage excess rain water, cool down towns in summer, create excellent city wide fish ponds. No pollution tolerated. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKETrG-UMAIcnq_.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:42:00 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910031202739822593 Better yet, proper canals allow for efficient noise free environmentally correct local transport and attracts tourists like nothing else. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEUg0oUQAAIxXT.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEUg0nVoAEN9Po.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEUg0qVAAAxbXG.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEUhMFU8AAHwvx.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:47:42 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910032634037772288 The recipe for charming urbanism: cars ruin towns, so ban them. Move traffic out, move people in. Vary pavement to match the neighborhood... [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEV1bBVAAAGDj9.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-09-19 06:53:14 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/910034029080068096 ...and above all, whatever else you do, make sure to add water to your town: canals, rivers, drains, streams, ponds. The more the better. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEXH0AVoAAu-wF.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:03:31 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925558895694700545 Our ancestors loved their cities. They loved them so much they built walls, dug ditches, raised defensive works, not only to stop invaders&+ICY-; [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNg-ytCUIAEIs1C.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:04:34 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925559158476120064 ...but also to define the sustainable limits of the city in terms of space, population, sustenance. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNg_DEaVQAErWZW.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:06:06 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925559547263008768 The walls helped to create a natural hierarchy in the city, of main streets vs. alleys, gardens vs. squares, orchards vs. open fields. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNg_eW0VAAEPAYa.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:08:50 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925560234969513986 Take the ancient city of Tournai for example, in modern Belgium. It had two sets of walls. You can easily see how the main streets... [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNhAHjiU8AEQawp.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:10:11 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925560573655334912 &+ICY-;formed naturally along the main routes (rivers) into the city. Leaving "wedges" of green space between gates and along the walls. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNhAa0aU8AAALtM.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:11:06 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925560806170697728 The green spaces (to keep animals, to grow food) gave a natural order to the city that allowed all levels of craft and commerce to develop. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNhAoXUV4AA9xno.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:13:41 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925561452508749824 Even 13th c. walled towns had suburbs, called "Forsbourg" (vl, foris-burghum), "Faubourg" (fr), "Vorstadt" (de), centered on the city gates. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNhA4vCUQAIrY4i.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:14:30 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925561660441374720 Originally inns where traders, farmers, would wait for gates to open, they grew into villages of their own, invisible today but in names. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNhBWSNUEAEj-3n.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:15:58 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925562027925430272 It is theoretically possible to build a great city without walls, but evidence shows us that it is very nearly impossible. So why risk it? [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNhBvO4U8AE5MEA.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-01 03:19:46 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925562983681372161 In order to let towns be towns and not spill into and ruin the countryside I say it is high time we start building walls again. Sustainable. [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNhCg1KU8AAnPqU.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-02 04:47:33 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925947464103772161 Time for some light reading: Lewis Mumford on what your senses would encounter in a medieval town. First, the nose... [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmgSqzUQAIrAm3.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmgSqyUMAAitPr.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-02 04:48:52 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925947795948711936 Then, the ears. (From Lewis Mumford, The Culture of Cities, 1948) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmglbJVwAAoqC0.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmglbLUIAAwJ_F.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-11-02 04:49:50 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/925948040283688961 Finally, the eyes. (From Lewis Mumford, The Culture of Cities, 1948) [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmgzWSVoAE3UDH.jpg:orig "zoom") [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNmgzWqV4AAtHj2.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-12-08 04:40:04 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/938991544165482497 &+IBw-;Build in such a way that you and those dear to you will use your buildings, look at them, work in them, spend their holidays in them, and grow old in them, with pleasure.&+IB0-; &+IBQ-; L&+AOk-;on Krier [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQf30OHUIAIdTKP.jpg:orig "zoom") Wrath Of Gnon (@wrathofgnon) 2017-12-18 06:36:40 (UTC) https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/942644765354426374 A few weeks into this thread the best comment/observation/mention was @jahskillen's: [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRTyZLmUEAEEWNd.jpg:orig "zoom") Mithgol the Webmaster (@FidonetRunes) 2018-03-13 12:09:46 (UTC) https://twitter.com/FidonetRunes/status/973531560673775617 Вид фотографии по адресу https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/884605867487707136 произвёл на меня сильное художественное впечатление. Я предполагал раньше, может быть наивно, что такое сочетание небольших зданий и тёплого освещения возможно только в #аниме Sword Art Online, но не в так называемом реальном мире. Sexy Cosplay &+ICI-; NSFW (@justsexycosplay) 2018-03-12 15:32:20 (UTC) https://twitter.com/justsexycosplay/status/973220153906352128 Asuna (Sword Art Online) by Damn Avenger http://ift.tt/2FxuNxF #sexy #cosplay [ ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYGSklxWsAQ3ie7.jpg:orig "zoom") --- https://github.com/Mithgol/node-twi2fido/ * Origin: FGHI Global Headlight Ignited (2:50/88) К главной странице гейта

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