= Сообщение: 1309 из 2391 ================================ RU.FIDONET.DIGEST = От : Vladimir Fyodorov 2:50/15.1 19 Mar 19 11:51:24 Кому : All 19 Mar 19 11:51:24 Тема : FIDONEWS: Где эти "важные" русские? FGHI : area://RU.FIDONET.DIGEST?msgid=2:50/15.1+5c90ad8e = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP866 ================================== ==============================================================================
> В эхе FIDONEWS обсуждается возможность объединения Фидо в одну зону. В > ходе дискуссии было высказано предположение, что сисопы из России вряд ли > согласятся на подобный переход, между тем как R50 для Фидо очень важен > ("Имейте в виду, что BinkD, HPT и, вероятно, другие интересные вещи > приходят оттуда. Они не глупы"). Dan Clough, между тем, удивляется, > почему русские не пишут в те англоязычные эхи, которые он читает ("не > видим никаких сообщений от этих важных русских. Я не думаю, что видел > хотя бы один пост в ЛЮБОЙ эхе, за которой я слежу, от русского"). Из R50 > его сентенцию прокомментировал только Александр Корягин.
============================================================================= * Area : FIDONEWS * From : Dan Clough, 1:123/115 (18 Марта 2019 08:55) * To : Nick Andre * Subj : Re: Fidonet => one unizon ============================================================================= -=> Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-
DC> I say Fido could/should go to ONLY Zone 1, and keep zones 2-6 out DC> of circulation for historical/sentimental reasons. All other nets DC> can be Zone 7+ (as they already are).
NA> It may be "technically correct" that only one Zone is needed in NA> Fidonet given our numbers, but theres no way to convince people NA> to change their address.
Well, that isn't really known to be true. Yet.
NA> Especially to Zone 1 which has a NA> notorious history of zone-wars, power trips and general NA> stupidity, bullshit and bad decisions. Couple this with the NA> rediculous idea being tossed around of a completely unnecessary NA> web-nodelist-management system and its just a recipe for NA> disaster.
OK, so I take it you're like the Zone 2 folks who will resist all change, regardless of merit?
NA> Many Sysops zone-wide just can't get over the past events which NA> have permanently destroyed credibility and something called NA> "trust".
Sounds like a personal problem for them.
NA> As I just wrote... Russia takes Fidonet a tad bit more seriously NA> and if you glance at a recent nodelist, skip down to Region 50. NA> Keep in mind that BinkD and HPT and likely other cool stuff comes NA> from there. They are not stupid.
I don't believe anybody has said they were stupid. Yes, that is an impressive Region, looks like a snippet from my previous stint in Fido in the early 90's.
NA> There is not enough vodka in the world to convince them to move NA> to Zone 1, so I guess all of them will be kept out of circulation NA> for historical/sentimental reasons?
Well, using "Zone 1" for Fido isn't written in cement. It could just as well be Zone 2. The real point is that multiple Zones are not needed.
It's a little curious to me as to why we don't see *ANY* posts from these important Russians. I don't think I've seen a single post in ANY echo that I follow, from a Russian. I'm assuming they have their own set of echos, but why wouldn't ANY of them participate in a "Fido-wide" echo like this one? Serious question... =============================================================================
============================================================================= * Area : FIDONEWS * From : alexander koryagin, 2:5020/2140.2 (18 Марта 2019 18:55) * To : Dan Clough * Subj : Re: Fidonet => one unizon ============================================================================= Hi, Dan Clough! I read your message from 18.03.2019 08:55
DC> It's a little curious to me as to why we don't see*ANY* posts DC> from these important Russians. I don't think I've seen a single DC> post in ANY echo that I follow, from a Russian. I'm assuming DC> they have their own set of echos, but why wouldn't ANY of them DC> participate in a "Fido-wide" echo like this one? Serious DC> question...
No, no, Russians are omnipresent! Ask me something! ;-)
Bye, Dan! Alexander Koryagin =============================================================================
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