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> FTS-4010 "The PING and TRACE flags" принят в рекордный срок, через два > дня после опубликования соответствующего FSP, несмотря на то, что > традиционно проект должен числится в черновиках не менее года.
============================================================================= * Area : FTSC_PUBLIC * From : Andrew Leary, 1:320/219 (29 Апреля 2021 12:29) * Subj : FTS-4010 Final Review ============================================================================= Hello everybody!
Publication: FTS-4010 Revision: 1 Title: The PING and TRACE flags Author(s): Michiel van der Vlist, FTSC members and administrator. Issue Date: 2021-04-27 =====================================================================
Status of this document -----------------------
This document is a FidoNet Technical Standard (FTS).
This document specifies an optional FidoNet standard for the FidoNet community.
This document is released to the public domain, and may be used, copied or modified for any purpose whatever.
This document supersedes and replaces FSP-1043. FSP-1043 is preserved in the FTSC reference library as FRL-1040.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents: 0. Definitions 1. Introduction. 2. The problem. 3. The solution. 4. Considerations A. References B. History ---------------------------------------------------------------------
0. Definitions --------------
The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in [FTA-1006].
1. Introduction ---------------
The PING functionality as introduced by Ward Dossche just over two decades ago and advertised by the PING flag is a very useful tool in tracing and solving routing problems. This proposal is an update of the original specs and introduces the TRACE flag.
2. The problem --------------
In the original specification as documented by Ward Dossche in the April 2001 Z2 nodelist trailer and the specification last documented in FTS-5001.006, the PING functionality contains two parts: PING and TRACE. According to that specification systems flying the PING flag should support both PING and TRACE functionality.
Recent surveys by the author however have shown that not all systems flying the PING flag also support the TRACE functionality. One could argue that current practice is that TRACE functionality is optional.
Considering that the PING function alone is a very useful tool all by itself for both routing systems and leaf systems and that TRACE is only useful for routing systems, one may conclude that the above current practice works well, but that it is not compliant with the original and current specs.
3. The Solution ---------------
Split up the PING and TRACE functionality.
PING ----
Specified as exactly "PING" with no arguments. Nodes flying this flag will adhere to the following functionality:
If a message destined to user "PING" (case insensitive) arrives at its final destination and this final destination flies the PING flag, then the receiving node will bounce the message back to the original sender clearly quoting all the original via lines.
If a message destined to "PING" arrives at its final destination but this final destination does _not_ fly the PING flag then the message may be deleted from the system without further action.
TRACE -----
Specified as exactly "TRACE" with no arguments. Nodes flying this flag will adhere to the following functionality:
If a message destined to user "PING" (case insensitive) arrives at a node which flies the TRACE flag but is merely passing through to another destination then the in-transit node will notify the sender of this occurrence, clearly quoting the via lines, and forward the original mail unaltered towards its final destination.
For both PING and TRACE responses, the sender's name must never be "PING" and the responses must never be addressed to "PING".
4. Considerations -----------------
Making the TRACE function optional by separating the flags, is an encouragement for developers and script writers to join the project. They can choose to only implement the PING functionality and leave TRACE functionality for later or omit it completely without violating the specs. This will hopefully make more sysops join the PING club.
Splitting up the PING and TRACE functionality by introducing the TRACE flag is backward compatible. Systems flying the PING flag that do not support TRACE need do nothing, they are compliant with the new specs. Systems flying the PING flag that support both PING and TRACE functionality may add the TRACE flag to their listing. But if they do not, no harm is done, they are still compliant with the new specs, it just does not advertise all functionality.
A. References -------------
[FTS-5] "The distribution nodelist". Ben Baker, Rick Moore, and David Nugent. 1996-02-27. Obsoleted by FTS-5000.
FTS-5000] "The distribution nodelist". FTSC Members, Administrator, and Honoured Guests. 2014-01-23.
[FTS-5001] "Nodelist flags and userflags". FTSC Members, Administrator, and Honoured Guests 2017-08-13.
A PING robot survey. Michiel van der Vlist. Fidonews 38:07, 2021-02-15.
Ping robot survey, a follow up. Michiel van der Vlist. Fidonews 38:15, 2021-04-12.
B. History ----------
Rev.1, 2021-04-27: Initial release.
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Please submit any comments or suggestions by 2021-05-06. =============================================================================
============================================================================= * Area : FTSC_PUBLIC * From : Alexey Vissarionov, 2:5020/545 (29 Апреля 2021 20:39) * To : Andrew Leary * Subj : FTS-4010 Final Review ============================================================================= AL> Publication: FTS-4010 AL> This document supersedes and replaces FSP-1043. AL> FSP-1043 is preserved in the FTSC reference library as FRL-1040.
The FSP should be out for at least a year to be promoted to the FTS.
FSP-1043 is dated 2021-04-27. Two days definitely are not enough. =============================================================================
============================================================================= * Area : FTSC_PUBLIC * From : Andrew Leary, 1:320/219 (29 Апреля 2021 18:50) * To : Alexey Vissarionov * Subj : FTS-4010 Final Review ============================================================================= AV> The FSP should be out for at least a year to be promoted to the FTS. AV> FSP-1043 is dated 2021-04-27. Two days definitely are not enough.
Thank you for your input. This particular proposal is very simple, and is already in use in a significant portion of FidoNet. If you have any other comments, please feel free to share them here. =============================================================================
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