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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555         01 Mar 17 16:33:47
Кому : Konstantin Kuzov                                    01 Mar 17 16:33:47
Тема : oh those russians
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Hello Konstantin,

On Wednesday March 01 2017 13:35, you wrote to Maurice Kinal:

KK>>> Using CP1251 exactly where? And why don't KOI8-R? Or even
KK>>> ISO-8859-5?

MK>> Do you have any statistics to back any of that up?  I only went by
MK>> what I've witnessed in the past.

KK> Why I need to back anything up? It was yours assumption that most
KK> Russian users using CP1251.

Indeed, it was he who claimed wide spread use of CP1251. The onus of proof is on the one making the claim.

All I can say is that I have never seen a message encoded in CP1251 in Fidonet. What I see is CP437, CP850, Latin-1, and CP866.

MK>> At one time the majority of Russian sites appeared to be KOI8-R
MK>> based but not anymore.  I see mostly UTF-8 these days

While it is true that most of the World Wide Web has migrated to UTF-8, we should keep in mind that Fidonet is not the Internet. As you have pointed out, the vast majority of Fidonet messages still use 8 bit encoding. The UTF-8 evangelists in here may wish it different, but the reality is that we still have a long way to go before UTF-8 will be the dominant encoding for Fidonet and it is quit likely that will never happen.

KK> If you don't care that you messages could not be read correctly then
KK> you can continue to write with bogus or missing codepage information.
KK> But if it was in my power I would have restricted such traffic and
KK> treat it as a case of 1.3.5 with all its consequences.

See the new area rules published earier today.


Cheers, Michiel

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