= Сообщение: 420 из 1367 ============================================= UTF-8 = От : Konstantin Kuzov 2:5019/40.1 28 Feb 17 16:03:42 Кому : Maurice Kinal 28 Feb 17 16:03:42 Тема : Re: oh those russians FGHI : area://UTF-8?msgid=2:5019/40.1+58b5752c На : area://UTF-8?msgid=1:153/7001+58b4d4f3 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: UTF-8 ================================== Ответ: area://UTF-8?msgid=1:153/7001+58b58a62 ============================================================================== Greetings, Maurice!
KK>> especially in fidonet where dominating codepage is CP866 MK> Which completely ignores most Russian users which are more than likely MK> using CP1251.
Using CP1251 exactly where? And why don't KOI8-R? Or even ISO-8859-5?
MK> The above quote assumes that Russian sysops are content keeping fidonet MK> within a small group of users of Russian abandonware rather than open MK> it up to the larger group of actual Russian users.
Until that majority of users switch to modern software which supports unicode it isn't possible to switch to UTF-8. How you want to convince them for necessity of such move? Using CP1251 or KOI8-R can also cause issues if receiver doesn't setup xlat tables right. And there are no benefits using other 8bit encoding instead of CP866 in any case.
MK> Also, like everywhere else in the world, utf-8 is the majority of MK> systems on the internet which will likely spread to the majority of MK> users ... eventually. One could easily argue that universal adoption of MK> utf-8 text messaging only makes economic sense since the exact same MK> capable device could be used anywhere by anyone no matter what their MK> native language(s) happen to be.
No one argues that UTF-8 is better over 8bit encodings. But in fidonet there are currently many technical stoppers exits whose blocking usage of it.
MK> By the way, this tagline is 8 bit Russian except NOT CP866 but instead MK> CP1251 which is the most likely to happen in real usuage, and as a MK> matter of fact I have witnessed it happen on a Russian website in the MK> past. It should say the same as the 8 bit Greek (CP737) tagline except MK> in Russian.
Which turned to garbage because of bogus CHRS kludge. But you don't care isn't it?
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